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    I am a moderator myself and know that people always complain. But when a forum becomes 90% complaining and 10% informative/fun, there's something REALLY wrong.

    I will temporarily leave the forums. Hopefully some people will come to their senses soon enough. In a couple weeks, I might check back if anything changed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Entropy View Post
    Abstract you weren't always a mod... you have been around a while ...

    Are you seriously trying to put forward you will get responses ??

    Moreso have you not noticed these forums have take a HUGE leap into mass censorship land ? See the people receiving infractions these days ?? Way older members who have helped countless people in this game.

    Any thread now saying anything bad about Evony is auto deleted and you receive a "Disrespect of Authority" infraction ......... no just stink a little no ?

    We used to be able to take this massive pi$$ out of Dawnseeker and he would reply in kind when it was only a few servers with all the new hirings this place is gone to the dogs. Literally can't say a word unless it's "evonys great omg i love evony"
    Entropy, your walking on very thin ice here.

    AbstractAngel has been a mod since before the 6th of May 2009, that's before the official release of Evony. She is one of the very few people around from the beginning and apart from Hods probably one of the very very few moderators who have been here since the beginning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abracax View Post
    ...if a customer became abusive or completely disruptive of the business, it was time for them to go and they no longer deserved the right to be heard. When people keep things civil, without making accusations, false statements, threats, being abusive, offensive or completely disruptive, the reps are more than willing to listen and mods leave threads alone.
    I don't see how your comments relate to DarkBrady's posts, for example. So what is it that warranted him being suspended? The very fact you can't discuss his suspension openly surely should concern you. I'm quite sure DarkBrady would give his permission to discuss it with us, so unless his suspension was inappropriate, why not explain it? It would calm a lot of the current frustrations on these forums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abracax View Post
    To you and to Entropy, infractions and bannings are not allowed to be discussed. If anyone has a problem with an infraction or banning or just think a mod is plain wrong, message Dawnseeker or Valkirah. Many mods are even willing to discuss in PM's with the person the infraction was given to as a chance for that person to get it reversed.
    I was not enquiring about a ban or infraction - I just wish to clarify what in that post warranted being deleted - was it considered abusive, disrespectful, or undermining - or was it just unpopular? Please clarify so that I/we may understand - by PM if you prefer.

    Kind regards

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    Quote Originally Posted by abracax View Post
    DC, it is not good for business as it incurs huge losses and you cannot then give say 10% off to 1,000 customers.
    I have no issue with you abracax but i need to point out here since accounting and marketing is my area of expertise... a 10% discount to 1000 customers increases the inventory turnover rates which is typically a GREAT thing for a company as it allows for an increase in purchasing power which in turn typically allows the vendor to offer the business a proportionate discount that will translate into increased savings for the consumer.

    For a simple reference.... look at Wal-Marts purchasing power and ability to offer lower prices to their customers than their competitors...

    So yes offering 10% discount to all 1000 customers would be very beneficial to the business.... As Evony giving 10% more tolerance to it's customers would increase it's "forum" business which translates into gaming business.
    Last edited by SweetP; 11-18-2009 at 02:14 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EduLeics I View Post
    Entropy, your walking on very thin ice here.

    AbstractAngel has been a mod since before the 6th of May 2009, that's before the official release of Evony. She is one of the very few people around from the beginning and apart from Hods probably one of the very very few moderators who have been here since the beginning.
    Aye i know i was around since the 1st week of Civony.... i know who she is.


    I also know how these forums are now im-possible to do anything other than............. oh wait you can't do anything.

    As for skating on thin ice.... i live in Ireland no ice here surrounded by sea

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    Quote Originally Posted by TPUK View Post
    I was not enquiring about a ban or infraction - I just wish to clarify what in that post warranted being deleted - was it considered abusive, disrespectful, or undermining - or was it just unpopular? Please clarify so that I/we may understand - by PM if you prefer.

    Kind regards

    TP
    I honestly don't know what post you are talking about since I am not the one who deleted it, as I said you can always PM a Rep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Entropy View Post
    Abstract you weren't always a mod... you have been around a while ...

    Are you seriously trying to put forward you will get responses ??

    Moreso have you not noticed these forums have take a HUGE leap into mass censorship land ? See the people receiving infractions these days ?? Way older members who have helped countless people in this game.

    Any thread now saying anything bad about Evony is auto deleted and you receive a "Disrespect of Authority" infraction ......... no just stink a little no ?
    I've been a mod for about 7 months now, been around since the beginning, you're right!

    I know a lot of the times I myself have had no responses from the contact us page, or the automated responses as well. There are some "I hate evony" threads active and untouched, for instance:

    http://bbs.evony.com/showthread.php?t=79831
    http://bbs.evony.com/showthread.php?t=81736

    Just a couple I grabbed as examples from threads I mod. We see "I love you Evony" and "I hate you Evony" every day.

    Basically, I'm not saying people can't get lost in the shuffle, but frankly, if I close a thread that you think I was wrong about, I'd prefer to get a message so I can at least hear you out on it.

    I've reversed warning/infractions and re-opened posts I closed a few times because I saw the other side of the argument and agreed I was wrong. I'd prefer to know. If I was abusing my power in any way, I should be told off by the admins or lose my volunteer position.

    I can't speak for everyone (mod, dev, or admin) regarding replies but if someone is not responding to you I say bring it to the next mod, and higher up until you get a response, these are your forums and if you feel something specific is unfair, make your case!

    The problem with doing it publicly is yes, it gets out of hand, and yes, Evony can decide to remove/merge/infract/ban if they beleive someone crossed the line, but it works both ways! Even mods are fallable, and SHOULD be given personal feedback from you guys to better improve how we act as moderators.

    Sorry a bit of a rant, and I get what you're saying about the feeling of unfairness, you have every right to feel that way! I'm just trying to help - saying lets be proactive and not reactive, and if you think I'm doing a terrible job, tell me! (I'm using me but I mean every mod) I've made mistakes but when people come to me with an honest argument whether I agree with it or not, I do take it to heart. I shouldn't be here if didn't.

    Compliments of the wonderful Warsimi!

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    I have a topic going asking for Freedom of speech. Feel free to discuss or add to it. http://bbs.evony.com/showthread.php?t=75336

    Quote Originally Posted by abracax View Post
    You don't know if those people are regular shoppers at that establishment or not.

    Civilized discussion is allowed, complete disruption is not. There is a difference.
    To my experience civilized discussion was not allowed. First, I've seen topics closed and deleted because a moderator said that the material of the topic could cause players to be banned. Also, the poster was warned for advertising other sites because she posted several articles as citations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abracax View Post
    I honestly don't know what post you are talking about since I am not the one who deleted it, as I said you can always PM a Rep.
    The exact one that Valkirah quoted further up the page if you scroll up

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