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    So here is one OLD GUYS solution ..
    IF you are dumb enough to buy a screen name and password.. wouldnt you be smart enough to change the password..im just sayin

    EATS mine..heh heh..no no eats mine ..heh heh ..gimmie.. uh hu hu gimmie back my account back butt munch

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyBunny View Post
    I would be happy to:

    First of all, transfer of an account by selling, buying, gifting, "accidentally" leaving the login information on a scrap of paper stuck under a park bench, or any other method is a violation of our Terms & Conditions and Evony does not honor such transfers.

    Second, I'd be very interested to see how someone would press charges of credit card fraud for an illegal transaction. Let me test this: I'm gonna call the police and say that my drug dealer totally ripped me off and this cocaine is NOT pure. Someone bail me out of jail please? An account transfer isn't going to net you jail time, but we'll probably just ban the account to stop the fight and ebay will laugh you off the server.

    Now, if the original owner of the account should exercise the "Forgot Password" feature and retrieve his account, since Evony acknowledges no transfer of the account, he's well within his rights. The "purchaser" just got sacked, and it's his own fault for violating the T&C. We'll not give him any sympathy.

    And finally, if the original owner should happen to be able to provide any kind of proof of botting or other illegal activities on the various accounts in question, we'd likely go on a banning spree and send everyone packing. And no, we don't really care if you maxed out your credit card on the accounts. You cheat, you get banned.
    Is this maybe stepping outside your jurisdiction in making rulings on in-game disputes?

    I apologize if I'm wrong... I'm not really sure what your role as a super moderator entails, but I would guess it sticks to stuff on the forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBQ_Sauce View Post
    Is this maybe stepping outside your jurisdiction in making rulings on in-game disputes?

    I apologize if I'm wrong... I'm not really sure what your role as a super moderator entails, but I would guess it sticks to stuff on the forum.
    Err Sauce
    I believe Foxy was quoting the actual Terms of Service we all agreed to upon joining Evony/ Civony ( just for you long term players).
    If your not sure of what you agreed to you better go re - read them

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBQ_Sauce View Post
    Is this maybe stepping outside your jurisdiction in making rulings on in-game disputes?

    I apologize if I'm wrong... I'm not really sure what your role as a super moderator entails, but I would guess it sticks to stuff on the forum.
    Perhaps it falls outside my jurisdiction as a supermod, but I don't think it falls outside the jurisdiction of my paid position with Evony. Besides, I'm not making a ruling on an in-game dispute. I'm rendering an opinion, as asked to do, on a hypothetical situation. BBQ, dear, darling, sweetheart, don't fuss with me.

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    Hypothetically speaking, what account would this be so we can ban it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawnseeker View Post
    Hypothetically speaking, what account would this be so we can ban it?
    Hypothetically of course, right? lol

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    We'd only hypothetically ban it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyBunny View Post
    Second, I'd be very interested to see how someone would press charges of credit card fraud for an illegal transaction.
    A transaction which violates Evony's User Agreement does not make it an "illegal" transaction. An illegal transaction is a transaction which is illegal in the eyes of the law.

    Evony states it is against the UA to "sell" an account. User A sells account to User B. While User A has violated Evony's UA, User A has not broken any laws (assuming there are no laws which would prohibit such a transfer within A or B's jurisdiction.)

    On the other hand, if User A hired User B to rob a bank, *that* would be an example of an illegal transaction, because the act of robbing a bank is codified in criminal statutes as an illegal act.

    Evony certain could ban both A and B for violating their UA. However, neither A nor B would go to prison for an "illegal" transaction, because no law was violated.

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    Ah, but selling something that does not belong to you, that you have no right to sell, and that you cannot guarantee continued possession of to the new owner would be illegal, right? If not, I'm going right back to selling the Statue of Liberty to tourists.

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    I've sold my virginity five times.

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