A Newbie Guide by an Actual Newbie

[Pwadyal]

To be honest without naming any names ( though from comments these guys seem well known) ive looked over a few guides from vets a few times and they are quite pathetic for a noob guide. Alot of them have misinformation and bad advice. Some of which i will list here:

1) farm NPC cities in BP to get high pres - sorry dude you cant farm cities in noob.
2)You need high pres to get in a good alliance - not really you just need to be more intelligent than a pencil and active.
3)leave your townhall at level 2 - wrong again TH greater than 2 is required for many things.
4) get out BP and farm low level NPCS ASAP- thats just dumb who wouldnt take advantage of 7 days of " you cant touch this" just for a lil farming
5) you dont need any quarrys- yeah you do. Stone like everything else fluctuates its not always super cheap( actually on my server its the second most expensive) Noobs dont have gold to toss around.. oh wait we was suppose to get gold from the magical attacks on NPCs lol.
6) build 6 billion barracks so you can train 5000 troops in 2 seconds. - forgot one thing building barracks takes my time and resources both of which are in short supply. I dont need to take over tuscany single handed on day 8. i just want to live to see day 9 so imma focus on ATS walls and useful things and in the meantime ill casually build up a couple thousand archers so i can farm level 1s and 2s.
7) build 6-8 cottages - right with level 2 townhalls right? LOL. so if i put #6 and 7 togather i can train my 500 troops im going to have in .3 seconds.. great waste of resources.

1) Ya that's why when you're out of BP you have ballistas to farm food and stock up on resources.
2) You actually do need high prestige to get into good alliances. There are prestige requirements you moron
3) Leaving TH at 2 is for people that want to get 100k prestige, that's a completely different objective than playing the game itself. Learn the difference, once again... moron.
4) Out of the 4 servers I started in I have NEVER been attacked. Want to know why? No one messes with the number 1 alliance and when I do get scouted, you think someone is gonna waste their time and 5k+ archers just to take out 1k ATs and ballistas? No one does major attacks like that so early in the game
5) You don't need quarries, sell excess resources (there are ALWAYS excess resources) in marketplace and buy stone
6) 15 lvl 1 barracks are all instant upgrade. getting them to lvl 4 each takes like half an hour for each? Is that really that bad? After that you level up a barracks each night till it hits 9. And wow wut a hippocrite, you talk of offense but you don't want to build troops quicker? Uhh... wow you really are a newbie LOL
7) 6-8 cottages isn't bad. Especially if you consider that no one is actually keeping a level 2 TH unless you're messing around just to get 100k prestige. And again, those aren't serious players. Serious player will have like a lvl 6 TH and 6 to more like 10 cottages that are all lvl 6-7.
8) You're saying that the VETERANS don't know what they're talking about? You aren't the smartest person on the planet dude. Experience is knowledge. Veterans have played this game much more than you and have experienced a lot of different styles through looking at other alliance members. Why do you think no one is saying GOOD JOB on this guide?


EDIT: Agh forgot the important part. I had two cities in the beginning. One was my main which housed sawmills and the other was my farm that had ironmines. So that's probably why you started out so crappy, you had one city... as you make it seem in this guide.

[Tricky Boy]

That's why we write the noob guides for them.

You're still a noob. You don't even have 100k prestige on a server that's been up over 2 months. And you used you mikey on your TOWN HALL. That alone screams "noob! noob" to me.

[ThorianB]

1) Ya that's why when you're out of BP you have ballistas to farm food and stock up on resources.
2) You actually do need high prestige to get into good alliances. There are prestige requirements you moron
3) Leaving TH at 2 is for people that want to get 100k prestige, that's a completely different objective than playing the game itself. Learn the difference, once again... moron.
4) Out of the 4 servers I started in I have NEVER been attacked. Want to know why? No one messes with the number 1 alliance and when I do get scouted, you think someone is gonna waste their time and 5k+ archers just to take out 1k ATs and ballistas? No one does major attacks like that so early in the game
5) You don't need quarries, sell excess resources (there are ALWAYS excess resources) in marketplace and buy stone
6) 15 lvl 1 barracks are all instant upgrade. getting them to lvl 4 each takes like half an hour for each? Is that really that bad? After that you level up a barracks each night till it hits 9. And wow wut a hippocrite, you talk of offense but you don't want to build troops quicker? Uhh... wow you really are a newbie LOL
7) 6-8 cottages isn't bad. Especially if you consider that no one is actually keeping a level 2 TH unless you're messing around just to get 100k prestige. And again, those aren't serious players. Serious player will have like a lvl 6 TH and 6 to more like 10 cottages that are all lvl 6-7.
8) You're saying that the VETERANS don't know what they're talking about? You aren't the smartest person on the planet dude. Experience is knowledge. Veterans have played this game much more than you and have experienced a lot of different styles through looking at other alliance members. Why do you think no one is saying GOOD JOB on this guide?



EDIT: Agh forgot the important part. I had two cities in the beginning. One was my main which housed sawmills and the other was my farm that had ironmines. So that's probably why you started out so crappy, you had one city... as you make it seem in this guide.

Little hostile are we?

1)Yes you could farm with ballistas, But that takes alot more resources and time. Granted it might( i only say might cause you may not have the skill needed to farm without losses yet) be more efficent farm wise. OR I could spend my time and resources on better things train archers and farm low pres players till i get a few thousand archers( assuming i dont already have them OOP)

2)Well if you follow my guide getting in an top 50( actually in my case i could get in a top 10) wouldnt be much of a problem since on newish server min pres reqs for a top 10 are around 25-40k, but i find alot of alliance in the top 50 recruit based on how fast you get pres not how much you get. what would you rather have, someone who gains 2k plus pres a day consistantly with 25 k pres or someone who has 80k pres and gains a few hundred a day?

3) then why put it in a noob guide, so they can get in a good alliance?Seriously its not that difficult to get in a good alliance on a newish server. stunt my growth for a bunch of pres no thanks better use of protection.

4) PFFT please, It could of been many factors, Your location, your pres, your defenses to resource ratio..All of these factors contribute to if your attacked, staying out of sight & out of mind. currently we are battling a few top 10 alliances they attack our inactives and ones that have little or no defenses.You got 50k pres they dont even scout ya. Yep im impressed.

5)I disagree, YOU may not need quarries but i do. because that excess Lumber i sell on the market i use to train techs.So if i build quarries and i DONT have to buy stone thats the faster i can research since gold is typically the problem researching as a noob.

6)Ive never mentioned offense, only defense.again its not the time it takes its the resources it takes. It takes ...sec 2 hrs 10 min to go from 6 to 7 with a 70 pol hero and construction 3, it also takes 16k food 76k lumber 92k stone 32k iron x 15. Since i am in protection and cant farm and i didnt really build many resources because everyone told me to get all my "15" barracks really high really fast so now im broke, have low production ,but i can train troops really fast. Maybe you should check how much resources are required to upgrade 15 barracks. Me personally i upgrade mine as i go. I went a bit ahead of my guide but its a guide and leaves room for play. Plus i play a lot more than the typical player.

7)I keep 8 cottages currently though dont recommand TH upgrade past 4 till OOP.

8)Vets dont know how to write noob guides, vets know how to write advance city building guides.. noobs dont yet care about advanced tactics they are still learning how to take a second city or conquer a valley etc. And yes i seen alot of wrong info in the guides. Some of which is physically impossible due to game mechanics. Im a carpenter and we have a saying about architects.... Just because they can draw lines on a piece of a paper dont mean its physically possible. Same with guides just because you write it in a guide dont mean its physically possible( you have any idea how much resources it would take to get 15 barracks to even level 7?) like ive said till i was blue in the face and i really cant dumb this down anymore... vets are terrible at writing guides for noobs because THEY DONT THINK LIKE NOOBS. Noobs dont care about farming level 1-3s with ballistas they care about not getting farmed. They dont care about building archers in 20s , they care about not getting stuck in the *** with an arrow. They dont care about getting 100k pres in 7 days they care about still being on the map 7 days after OOP. They dont care about being in the #1 alliance ( honestly who would?your ego THAT big #1 dont mean best it just means they farm/research/farm/build/farm more.... and yes farm was repeated for a reason). I seen a noob guide with a SS of of what your city should look like level 4 th and walls( i think walls) and bloody plastered with barracks all over the place. Thats not a noob city thats a WAR CITY. WE ARE NOOBS WE DONT WANT TO BUILD A WAR CITY WE WANT TO LIVE TO SEE TOMORROW.

9) Oh and as far your city, thats a bad idea for a noob. You see WE ARE WORRIED ABOUT DEFENDING 1 city, why the hell would we want to get two cities and have twice as many problems trying to defend 2? Seriously lol.

Oh and PS i would appreciate you refraining from insults. Arguing my logic and methods is fine and dandy but personal attacks really hurt your creditiblity. It also shows desperation

[Pwadyal]

Little hostile are we?

1)Yes you could farm with ballistas, But that takes alot more resources and time. Granted it might( i only say might cause you may not have the skill needed to farm without losses yet) be more efficent farm wise. OR I could spend my time and resources on better things train archers and farm low pres players till i get a few thousand archers( assuming i dont already have them OOP)

2)Well if you follow my guide getting in an top 50( actually in my case i could get in a top 10) wouldnt be much of a problem since on newish server min pres reqs for a top 10 are around 25-40k, but i find alot of alliance in the top 50 recruit based on how fast you get pres not how much you get. what would you rather have, someone who gains 2k plus pres a day consistantly with 25 k pres or someone who has 80k pres and gains a few hundred a day?

3) then why put it in a noob guide, so they can get in a good alliance?Seriously its not that difficult to get in a good alliance on a newish server. stunt my growth for a bunch of pres no thanks better use of protection.

4) PFFT please, It could of been many factors, Your location, your pres, your defenses to resource ratio..All of these factors contribute to if your attacked, staying out of sight & out of mind. currently we are battling a few top 10 alliances they attack our inactives and ones that have little or no defenses.You got 50k pres they dont even scout ya. Yep im impressed.

5)I disagree, YOU may not need quarries but i do. because that excess Lumber i sell on the market i use to train techs.So if i build quarries and i DONT have to buy stone thats the faster i can research since gold is typically the problem researching as a noob.

6)Ive never mentioned offense, only defense.again its not the time it takes its the resources it takes. It takes ...sec 2 hrs 10 min to go from 6 to 7 with a 70 pol hero and construction 3, it also takes 16k food 76k lumber 92k stone 32k iron x 15. Since i am in protection and cant farm and i didnt really build many resources because everyone told me to get all my "15" barracks really high really fast so now im broke, have low production ,but i can train troops really fast. Maybe you should check how much resources are required to upgrade 15 barracks. Me personally i upgrade mine as i go. I went a bit ahead of my guide but its a guide and leaves room for play. Plus i play a lot more than the typical player.

7)I keep 8 cottages currently though dont recommand TH upgrade past 4 till OOP.

8)Vets dont know how to write noob guides, vets know how to write advance city building guides.. noobs dont yet care about advanced tactics they are still learning how to take a second city or conquer a valley etc. And yes i seen alot of wrong info in the guides. Some of which is physically impossible due to game mechanics. Im a carpenter and we have a saying about architects.... Just because they can draw lines on a piece of a paper dont mean its physically possible. Same with guides just because you write it in a guide dont mean its physically possible( you have any idea how much resources it would take to get 15 barracks to even level 7?) like ive said till i was blue in the face and i really cant dumb this down anymore... vets are terrible at writing guides for noobs because THEY DONT THINK LIKE NOOBS. Noobs dont care about farming level 1-3s with ballistas they care about not getting farmed. They dont care about building archers in 20s , they care about not getting stuck in the *** with an arrow. They dont care about getting 100k pres in 7 days they care about still being on the map 7 days after OOP. They dont care about being in the #1 alliance ( honestly who would?your ego THAT big #1 dont mean best it just means they farm/research/farm/build/farm more.... and yes farm was repeated for a reason). I seen a noob guide with a SS of of what your city should look like level 4 th and walls( i think walls) and bloody plastered with barracks all over the place. Thats not a noob city thats a WAR CITY. WE ARE NOOBS WE DONT WANT TO BUILD A WAR CITY WE WANT TO LIVE TO SEE TOMORROW.

9) Oh and as far your city, thats a bad idea for a noob. You see WE ARE WORRIED ABOUT DEFENDING 1 city, why the hell would we want to get two cities and have twice as many problems trying to defend 2? Seriously lol.

Oh and PS i would appreciate you refraining from insults. Arguing my logic and methods is fine and dandy but personal attacks really hurt your creditiblity. It also shows desperation

You win *bows down*
I have a few points to debate with back but it's not worth it. Because ultimately, you're right... Vets dont know how it is for noobs starting out, it's hard to make a nub guide when ur a vet. Good job lol

[lordgarzhad]

4) Garrisoning is for when you have enough backup from alliance mates. you want embassy to level 3 so you can at least garrison 3 armies. This is not your main defense. That would be archer towers. Leaving allow garrison checked does no harm their is no purpose in switching it back and forth( why make more work for yourself then is necessary?) Then you have the option to garrison troops if you need to be reinforced and its available. Otherwise gates stay closed and you let the archer towers handle it.

7) you dont need upgraded heros in the beginning. Its a waste of gold. What you need to spend gold on is techs not hero salary. Remember noobs cant go out and pillage cities 2-3 times an hour like players who are built up. Its much wiser to spend your gold on techs in the beggining not hero salaries. Once you start attacking npc cities and inactive players and start acquiring larger amounts of gold at a time then upgrade. But as a noob your only gold income is quest, taxes, resource sales. quest give a limited amount taxes only give a marginal amount an hour, and you need most /all the resources you make.

This is stupid. If you close your gates there is absolutely nothing your alliance could do to save yer butt when yer offline, after all, in case you forgot, you cant change the gate status while asleep. Also, the Resource bonus given by upgrading yer politic hero, and increased research speeds of leveling the intel hero, will far outweigh the extra 100 gold per level they take away.

Also, archer towers by themselves are pathetic, easily killed. All that time and resources that went into them wasted, all because you closed your gates. They need troop backup.

[Cosmic Fury]

A good thing to have at the start is six cottages, the basic buildings, and the rest barracks.

I recommend u only keep one warehouse.

And yes, archers will be your primary weapon.

I am sort of a noob myself, as I haven't done too much of what the top dogs do regularly.

And I tell you that the one thing u do not want in too large of an amount is warriors. They eat up food like crazy and die the same way.

If you do want to train melee units train swordsmen, archers, and scouts in your earlier stages.

Train siege equipment only if u are ready to handle it properly.

And make sure that u build lots of sawmills and ironmines, and fewer farms.

Later on, your troops will eat a lot, and you want to buy food as well as train them.

Stone you can usually buy because it's so darn cheap.

Only build 4 quarries maximum, and 6 farms maximum. Capture only forests and hills to boost the speed of which ur armies are trained.

Attack inactives, and always send a single acout to see if gates are open.

And yes, you shouldn't be attacking powerful alliances until you get into a helpful one yourself.

And see if there are any good cities that you can capture easily. U may not gain as much prestige but I assure you it is worth the 8 hours it takes to take a large town rather than build one.

Worry about barb cities later in the game, when you are able to train ballista because at first u focus on building not conquering.

And about defense, that is another subject that can be taken up later by others.

Good Luck,

Jurnis

[CaeserIII]

Good guide!

[goldrush]

very helpful guide for a noob who has never played this type of game before

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[mikyo]

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[Dornier Pfeil]

+1 rep from me, I agree that vets tend to give advice that seems less what a newbie (i never use noob, that is the insulting *******ization of the word, being a newbie does necessarily make one a noob) should do than what a vet does and when I read that veteran advice I cringe. You also get rep for your excellent writing style, if you had usage (of whatever variety) mistakes I missed them on first read, your patience to write lengthy passages, and your even tempered replies to very insulting people.

My critical piece of commentary will be to suggest that one quest should be put off for as long as possible. Newbies should not build a second city. I have more than a few players in my alliance who have lost their better city because they had two. Better to have mastered your one excellent city when you start/capture your second then be master of one so-so city left to you by your tormentors.

To the person who said you can solve all your problems by joining the #1 alliance on the server: what happens when it is full?