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    I'm just wondering if anyone else thinks this hurts defenders, because if very common fact that you gain more from defence then you do attacking, and if theres a honor difference the one with lower honor gets a higher heal rate.

    This gets to my problem I now in the top 100 of honor because 2 people love the have there troops die to my walls and they're getting probally 50% heal rates now because of it and they have plent of troops as it is. My problem is they're going to figure out they have high heal rate and they will evently find a time where im not on to open and close my gates to there scout bombs to kill my archers. They will lose 100k scouts per scout bomb and gain half it back while I would lose how ever many archer and then they can send half the amont they sent before at me again killing more of my archers, and if I were on, if this was to happen I would only get a 10% heal rate.

    Does anyone else seem to have a problem with this?

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    what these two people are doing is honor dumping on you, to create up to a 40% Handicap on you, what you just need to do is honor dump on someone as well,

    The best method in my opinion is cataphracts.
    in my experience, 7500 phracts can lower your honor by 800k, and i was at 16.6m.

    As for scout bombs, from my experience with being scout bombed 2.5mil scouts at a time, keep high Layers, and 100-150k archers, if your Layers are well over 200k, the scouts will most likely hit the layers, not archers.

    hope this helped you
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    Quote Originally Posted by ljbaxter90 View Post
    what these two people are doing is honor dumping on you, to create up to a 40% Handicap on you, what you just need to do is honor dump on someone as well,

    The best method in my opinion is cataphracts.
    in my experience, 7500 phracts can lower your honor by 800k, and i was at 16.6m.

    As for scout bombs, from my experience with being scout bombed 2.5mil scouts at a time, keep high Layers, and 100-150k archers, if your Layers are well over 200k, the scouts will most likely hit the layers, not archers.

    hope this helped you
    Your alliance needs to help you dump some honor on them.

    Cause yeah, we had like 7.5 million scouts attack us 120 times with a 50% heal rate and excaliber.

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    The problem multiplies itself if they are using bots.

    Evony could sure make the game more offense minded. And not so dammed repetitive. Like switching mayers on 10 cities? And farming non stop? To maintain a fighting force?

    Evony should make and sell it's own bot. Otherwise this game is going to tank. Well the economy isn't helping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ljbaxter90 View Post
    The best method in my opinion is cataphracts.
    in my experience, 7500 phracts can lower your honor by 800k
    I prefer using scouts since they're quicker and cheaper to make, and you can lose as much as 695k honor per 100k scouts.

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    All well and good in principle to honour dump but not realistic in practise.

    On 59 I had 28m honour. You really can't just suicide that much army. You sit there all the time looking at incoming, seeing a chance to kill 100k archers for near 0 loss and thinking they will most likely get 65k back and you are deeper in the mire. Should you just not defend, or stack a load of sacrificial warriors in your city?

    The base level is 30% recovery to both parties with 10% difference each incrtement. if this was switched to 5% so min/max were 20/40 that might work better, or something based on prestige. Certainly being ranked #2 on a server with 28m honour and defending attacks from the #1 ranked player who had 0 honour seemed harsh to say the least. I'd get 2m scouts on me and just rack up more and more honour and he would lose less than I did at the end of it all.

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    I personally think that this whole theory is bass ackwords. I mean, isn't honor supposed to be a GOOD thing to have? Really, it should give you a better heal rate. Right now, there's absolutely no reason you should have any honor at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ljbaxter90 View Post
    what these two people are doing is honor dumping on you, to create up to a 40% Handicap on you, what you just need to do is honor dump on someone as well,

    The best method in my opinion is cataphracts.
    in my experience, 7500 phracts can lower your honor by 800k, and i was at 16.6m.

    As for scout bombs, from my experience with being scout bombed 2.5mil scouts at a time, keep high Layers, and 100-150k archers, if your Layers are well over 200k, the scouts will most likely hit the layers, not archers.

    hope this helped you
    Scouts target the highest value of troops. If you have lots more layers than archers, then yeah, the scouts will target them. A good scout defender are pults. Just keep about 10k-20k and the scouts will go for them like crazy.
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