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    Sorry for posting a thread on this if one already exists... I don't particularly care to weed through all the "drop rate" complaints. LOL.

    Anyways... I play on server 66.

    When I have a good day to dedicate to playing, I can find 10 medals per day out of 40-50 attacks. Yes, approximately at 20-25% chance to find a medal.

    I attack only L10 valleys. Any of them will do as long as there are no archers or cavalry. This requires some patience while scouting at times, because a good majority of them have either/both.

    Make sure you have ~120k archers and a good handful of scouts. Once you have found at least 4-5 valleys with NO archers or cavs, send 30k archers AND 1-10 scouts to each one.

    My hero's attributes did not matter! Be careful sending very low ATT heroes, though they should be okay if you send 30k arch.

    Do not hit the same valley more than once an hour!

    You also DO NOT need to "CONQUER." Keep your valley slots full. This removes the frustration of having to recall and abandon every time.

    You may be able to lower the amount of archers for many of the valleys, but keep in mind that the more you send, the more resources you plunder. I send 15k to some of them just so I can hit more at the same time.

    I cannot guarantee what you will get from what valleys. I seem to get an array of different things. I myself have found more courage and wisdom medals than anything, freedom medals were the least found.

    Patience and time are key!

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    I've had similar experience.

    What I do is attack a few L10 valleys near my towns every hour or so in a usually lossless attack (unless I get it wrong). To work this your TH must be full of valleys so you do NOT capture them. If you don't capture the army setup stays the same when it it regenerates. Use cap/abandon (explained below) if you wish to change the army composition.

    Generally I send 20-30k arch and layers of 1. There are essentially 3 types of valleys and I handle them thus:

    no archers/cavalry:

    send 1 warr/pike/sword/cav and a load of archers. Lossless attack (apart from layers)


    Some cavalry

    send 1 warr/pike/sword/cav,ballista, 100 transports and a load of archers. Lossless attack (apart from layers)


    Some archers:

    I create a vacancy in a barrack in a different town. I attack with 1 of the above 2 attack types depending on if cavalry are present or not. I then send 1 scout and a hero to attack a few seconds after the attack from the other town. This means I don't have a big army out longer than is required and I don't make mistakes with my capping plus I get the resources from the valley.

    I then abandon the valley form the 2nd town and repeat until I get a valley without archers.

    typically you lose 1/3 their number of archers (ie they have 2k archers you lose around 700) which isn't so bad as it's usually a 1-3 time process.

    Side effects:

    As you aren't capping the valley you get 4x or 10x the experience as resources. For a forest/lake this is 10x so typically 700k-1.2m resources of that type. Flat is random resource type, hill is 4x xp. Sending the scout from the 2nd city in the above example is a bit fiddly but it makes sure you get the resources which can be handy.

    If you abandon valleys near your town you can realistically hit 3-4 an hour on a rota with 1 hero, gaining 300k+ xp/hour. Better xp than L5s and cheaper than L10s.

    My experience has been that all medals drop but freedom and lion seem to be the rarest.

    Update:

    Before I log off or before update I cap the valleys and hold them on my 2nd town. Especially ones close to a town or forests which are about the most lucrative for resources. This preserves them at L10 for the next days hunting. After abandoning the army may not be lossless so you need to cap/abandon as above to get it how you want but over the course of a few hours it is well worth it.

    The old cap/abandon L3 method was straightforward but incredibly tedious.

    You get a WAY better drop rate on the new setup althought you have no ability to focus on medal types. You also get the side effects of massive easy xp on any hero and tons of free resources. It is also less tedious once you have the valleys setup.

    Caveat:

    You might want to hold quite a few valleys but not to abandon them all immediately. Surprise server rashes/reboots really spoil your fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilleren View Post

    When I have a good day to dedicate to playing, I can find 10 medals per day out of 40-50 attacks.

    Patience and time are key!
    poppycock, some people win 1000 games cents on the wheel, its not a SKILL its blind ass LUCK. I've done 400-500 attacks a day and get 0 medals just like the other "medal drop rate complaint threads". You just happened to be the *lucky* one. Promotion should become automatic at a certain prestige level. There shouldn't be an element of LUCK to progressing through the game.

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    "No complaining here Plz!"


    Good luck with that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilleren View Post
    Sorry for posting a thread on this if one already exists... I don't particularly care to weed through all the "drop rate" complaints. LOL.

    Anyways... I play on server 66.

    When I have a good day to dedicate to playing, I can find 10 medals per day out of 40-50 attacks. Yes, approximately at 20-25% chance to find a medal.

    I attack only L10 valleys. Any of them will do as long as there are no archers or cavalry. This requires some patience while scouting at times, because a good majority of them have either/both.

    Make sure you have ~120k archers and a good handful of scouts. Once you have found at least 4-5 valleys with NO archers or cavs, send 30k archers AND 1-10 scouts to each one.

    My hero's attributes did not matter! Be careful sending very low ATT heroes, though they should be okay if you send 30k arch.

    Do not hit the same valley more than once an hour!

    You also DO NOT need to "CONQUER." Keep your valley slots full. This removes the frustration of having to recall and abandon every time.

    You may be able to lower the amount of archers for many of the valleys, but keep in mind that the more you send, the more resources you plunder. I send 15k to some of them just so I can hit more at the same time.

    I cannot guarantee what you will get from what valleys. I seem to get an array of different things. I myself have found more courage and wisdom medals than anything, freedom medals were the least found.

    Patience and time are key!
    1. You can attack a valley every 6 minutes (servers tick all valleys and NPCs every 6 minutes)

    2. You can send your low attack Intelligence hero with 15000 archers to a level 10 valley with infantry. Might need to send a layer(s) of 1 pikeman/swordman

    3. You can reset valleys by capturing/releasing valleys with archers using warriors with layers, or if the problem is the valley has cavalry with infantry or pure cav, then a lot of warriors with fewer archers.

    4. I have yet to see sending scouts makes any difference what-so-ever.
    But....the eternal ray of sunshine REALLY wanted to see you, so I helped brighten your day by removing the city from around you! ^.^

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    I heard a rumor that medal drop counts might be influenced by casualties on your end. Working with attacks against NPC I was able to get really good counts by throwing a bunch of sacrificial lambs in my attacks. Don?t know if that would work in the valleys.

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    It does not matter what your losses are or how many troops you send. This is something I tested myself months ago and have talked to several successful players about.

    What it comes down to is a specific amount of each type of medal is dropped on a server every 24hrs. Haven't been able to figure out the amount because I don't have access to everyones account to see what and how many of each medal they farmed on a daily basis.

    Now on newer servers everyone is going after the same medals, that is why quite a few people complain about never getting any. If say 300 rose medals drop and 30,000 people are trying to get rose, some will get several many will get none. This is only an example, I am using the example of 1% drop rate because people think it's less then that. In actuality it is much higher, or you would not have so many people on a server progress. As already has been figured there are at least 200,000 registered accounts on any given server.

    So with at least 200,000 people on each server and all going for the same medals or farming the same lvl valleys and NPC's. Only the ones that are able to farm around the time the medals are dropped every 24hrs will get the medals or at least the majority of the medals. It all comes down to timing, not amount of troops or amount of losses or even specific types of troops.

    This has been tried and tested over and over again by quite a few people. And has produced continuous reliable results. Where as the whole testing with specific types of troops or specific losses and amounts is completely unreliable as it changes each and every time and show that it is inconclusive as a base for how to get specific medals.

    Different valleys and different lvl NPC hold specific medals, a specific amount of medals drop every 24hrs on every server. I do not know the drop times, nor have I ever cared about the drop times. This is the one thing I know 100% about this game as I had this figure out before I had battle mechanics figured out, and am in some ways still figuring out battle mechanics lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by abracax View Post
    Different valleys and different lvl NPC hold specific medals
    Not on the newer servers. Only L10 valleys drop anything (well I heard about 1% of any medal from L9 and about .01% form L8). L10 valleys drop all the different medal types. NPCs do NOT drop anything and that includes L10 NPCs). On the newer servers you can't target specific types of medals (like L3 valleys targetted rose/lion on slightly older servers), you get what you get.

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