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    Unhappy Get ready for the backlash!

    From Thalin "you *will* respect my authoriti' (pronounced uh-thor-it-tye)" Athasian:

    Those who have had accounts closed due to the use of bots will not have their account restored.
    This scares me as a fair player and has started to pique my interest due to the massive influx of devastating LAG on server 84. It did seem to wane for a while there until a few days ago when the bots accounts were "rounded up" what anecdotellay ensued on my server is the world discussion became full of people complaining that their alliance mates had been banned even though they had NEVER BOTTED nor even knew of the existance of one etc. AND the lag became so devastating the game is unplayable. Your constructions will finish and sit with 00 seconds for 10 minutes. You click on the market and wait 3.5 minutes for the prices to appear. I suspect that theres a little denial of service being ran against evony's servers probably in retaliation for fair/unfair bannings.

    So though I feel if evony runs face-first into a loggerhead of charge-backs that's what they get for conducting business in the way they do, however for the rest of US GUYS who are still playing, I think we should take pause at this "your account will be deleted and you will be banned" attitude towards a large portion of the playing populous.

    Generally speaking those who used bots were more adept at utilizing computer skills and computer knowledge. To think that they'll just get their accounts banned, and move on to another game, or never be heard from again is ludicrous. They'll be back even MORE hell bent on cheating the evony system, making life miserable for the MODS, PLAYERS, the whole system in general.

    Just like to know what 'yall think cuz I think alot of players got either fairly or *unfairly* banned, and decided, ya know what? how bout a 24/7 FLOOD attack against your evony server from my botnet? Something had to have happened, EVONY couldn't be this disasterously slow if not.
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    Im told that the server 84 lag should be fixed/adjusted shortly
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightfang View Post
    Im told that the server 84 lag should be fixed/adjusted shortly
    I find it hard to believe that they can simply "adjust" the lag. I also find it hard to beleive that its even a server-side problem it's inability for the clent to even *contact* the server, which suggests denial of service attack. I really hope I'm wrong and it can be fixed cuz if not, I don't have the ambition to start over on another server, and can't play the server I'm on, its unplayable. (i also play server 84)
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    Quote Originally Posted by x1134x View Post
    I find it hard to believe that they can simply "adjust" the lag. I also find it hard to beleive that its even a server-side problem it's inability for the clent to even *contact* the server, which suggests denial of service attack. I really hope I'm wrong and it can be fixed cuz if not, I don't have the ambition to start over on another server, and can't play the server I'm on, its unplayable. (i also play server 84)
    I'm going to guess that the bandwidth allocated for server 84 isn't enough to accommodate the players which is causing lagg for players, and they are attempting to allocate more bandwidth for that server which requires dropping the bandwidth allocated to other servers which might not need as much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by x1134x View Post
    I find it hard to believe that they can simply "adjust" the lag. I also find it hard to beleive that its even a server-side problem it's inability for the clent to even *contact* the server, which suggests denial of service attack.
    You assume when Evony says "Server X", they mean a physical machine.

    It is entirely possible they are hosting several 'virtual servers' on one or more 'physical servers'.

    Based upon server load, they could move 1 virtual machine to another physical machine, and rebalance the load.

    Another option may relate to network traffic management. It is possible they adjust their bandwidth on a server by server basis depending on player load. Newer servers require less bandwidth than older, established servers with a full player base. As the player load increases on a server, they may adjust the amount of bandwidth dedicated to that server -- until they do it, you get lag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TentPig View Post
    You assume when Evony says "Server X", they mean a physical machine.

    It is entirely possible they are hosting several 'virtual servers' on one or more 'physical servers'.

    Based upon server load, they could move 1 virtual machine to another physical machine, and rebalance the load.

    Another option may relate to network traffic management. It is possible they adjust their bandwidth on a server by server basis depending on player load. Newer servers require less bandwidth than older, established servers with a full player base. As the player load increases on a server, they may adjust the amount of bandwidth dedicated to that server -- until they do it, you get lag.
    I'd almost buy that arguement if it werent for the papertrail of months and months of posts on the server 84 section calling for attention to the lag. It never got any better, we learned to tolerate it, then a couple days ago it got SOOOOO much worse that I haven't played or really done anything in 3 days.

    If it were a simple bandwidth setting I'd like to think they'd have fixed it months ago. I'd also guess that ALL the servers are on 1 physical machine, running virtual instances. I'd be surprised to find they have more than the one server with perhaps 1 or 2 more physical machines mirrored as a backup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by x1134x View Post
    I'd almost buy that arguement if it werent for the papertrail of months and months of posts on the server 84 section calling for attention to the lag. It never got any better, we learned to tolerate it, then a couple days ago it got SOOOOO much worse that I haven't played or really done anything in 3 days.

    If it were a simple bandwidth setting I'd like to think they'd have fixed it months ago. I'd also guess that ALL the servers are on 1 physical machine, running virtual instances. I'd be surprised to find they have more than the one server with perhaps 1 or 2 more physical machines mirrored as a backup.
    Or they have many servers, but the hardware they have can barely support the Windows 95 they run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by x1134x View Post
    I'd almost buy that arguement if it werent for the papertrail of months and months of posts on the server 84 section calling for attention to the lag. It never got any better, we learned to tolerate it, then a couple days ago it got SOOOOO much worse that I haven't played or really done anything in 3 days.
    Maybe you were banned and you just dont know it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightfang View Post
    Im told that the server 84 lag should be fixed/adjusted shortly
    it has been like this for weeks goes away and then comes back and evony blames our system for it that is somthing we want to be compinsated for this we spend way to much to be treated like it is our falt

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    So many people were charging-back their payments, that Evony had to shutdown half of the servers running server 84. They're attempting to get a loan now is what Bright is trying to say.

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