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    I have sent several emails to evony admins concerning the play of a few players including this one, pretty sure King Hunter has the log in to about 5-6 players in his alliance, this is dirty play and I hope they do something about it, as I am fairly sure this is against the rules if its not then someone needs to let me know that its okay to play several accounts, this isn't a cheating accusation I merely need a clarification of the rules:

    They are now playing an account that don't belong to them on server 84 here are the details:
    I attacked Sidvicious at 166 244 yesterday and his city had run out of food, he was reinforced which i expected, I had the loyalty down to 8 per this scout report 12/28/09 22:58:13:

    battle84.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20091228/2f/28/2f28492cf81cf30dd243bc7b8285a900.xml

    I expected the loyalty to drop to 0 on its own even with the reinforcements, Sid didn't reinforce the city because his troop count from the closest city never changed and he didn't heal what he had left of his army see this report 12/28/09 23:08:07:

    battle84.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20091228/97/f1/97f1d5f649534b484cce727e44a5eb9b.xml

    That report shows his army count from his closest city at 142 262.

    This next report shows the loyalty in the city 166 244 jump to 32 and the only way that happens is if someone logged in and prayed 12/28/09 23:05:54

    battle84.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20091228/8f/6e/8f6ed1f79f0af2efb1a3bdcd65eecacc.xml

    This next report shows his troop count still don't change in his closest city 12/28 23:29:19

    battle84.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20091228/01/9f/019f721d7a367cbf31052dba95bbfc29.xml

    then hours later he still had not reinforced his city from the other 12/29 01:30:22

    battle84.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20091229/f1/98/f198f4fb0f906938547ec697bdf7d382.xml

    In the above report you can see all troop counts in his city 142 262 and resource amounts and this is where it gets good, I scout him with this report 12/29 09:24:54

    battle84.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20091229/77/46/77461ef5e655da55a0ec6ff7738ee0e2.xml

    He ran out of food in his second city at 142 262 this is the next day so in a 24 hr period he ran out of food in 2 cities that tells you that he hasn't logged in to reinforce the first city I attacked or get food for the second but he had time to log in and pray for his first city that I attacked? The raise the loyalty to avoid losing it?

    This next report shows the city still out of food 12/29 09:45:37:

    battle84.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20091229/2c/a3/2ca3b664fda48bb683240a13e2ef65a9.xml

    Then would you believe someone logged in and spent his gold on food see this report 12/29 10:35:39:

    battle84.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20091229/6c/4f/6c4f6c86d1e49e118dc9282a95f29d4e.xml

    I strongly believe that sid isn't playing his own account right now and someone in terralea is playing it to save his cities, the army counts have not changed in either city see these reports:

    battle84.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20091229/e6/36/e63689bf4a02f79584e13a9120e927a0.xml

    battle84.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20091229/61/b8/61b80afce6fafa909c4e31c613ca1fbe.xml

    If he was really playing his accounts he would have reinforce both cities from his other cities and you would think he wouldn't run out of food in a second city. I know someone else is logging in to save them please do something......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conpmana View Post
    I have sent several emails to evony admins concerning the play of a few players including this one, pretty sure King Hunter has the log in to about 5-6 players in his alliance, this is dirty play and I hope they do something about it, as I am fairly sure this is against the rules if its not then someone needs to let me know that its okay to play several accounts, this isn't a cheating accusation I merely need a clarification of the rules:

    They are now playing an account that don't belong to them on server 84 here are the details:
    I attacked Sidvicious at 166 244 yesterday and his city had run out of food, he was reinforced which i expected, I had the loyalty down to 8 per this scout report 12/28/09 22:58:13:

    battle84.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20091228/2f/28/2f28492cf81cf30dd243bc7b8285a900.xml

    I expected the loyalty to drop to 0 on its own even with the reinforcements, Sid didn't reinforce the city because his troop count from the closest city never changed and he didn't heal what he had left of his army see this report 12/28/09 23:08:07:

    battle84.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20091228/97/f1/97f1d5f649534b484cce727e44a5eb9b.xml

    That report shows his army count from his closest city at 142 262.

    This next report shows the loyalty in the city 166 244 jump to 32 and the only way that happens is if someone logged in and prayed 12/28/09 23:05:54

    battle84.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20091228/8f/6e/8f6ed1f79f0af2efb1a3bdcd65eecacc.xml

    This next report shows his troop count still don't change in his closest city 12/28 23:29:19

    battle84.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20091228/01/9f/019f721d7a367cbf31052dba95bbfc29.xml

    then hours later he still had not reinforced his city from the other 12/29 01:30:22

    battle84.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20091229/f1/98/f198f4fb0f906938547ec697bdf7d382.xml

    In the above report you can see all troop counts in his city 142 262 and resource amounts and this is where it gets good, I scout him with this report 12/29 09:24:54

    battle84.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20091229/77/46/77461ef5e655da55a0ec6ff7738ee0e2.xml

    He ran out of food in his second city at 142 262 this is the next day so in a 24 hr period he ran out of food in 2 cities that tells you that he hasn't logged in to reinforce the first city I attacked or get food for the second but he had time to log in and pray for his first city that I attacked? The raise the loyalty to avoid losing it?

    This next report shows the city still out of food 12/29 09:45:37:

    battle84.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20091229/2c/a3/2ca3b664fda48bb683240a13e2ef65a9.xml

    Then would you believe someone logged in and spent his gold on food see this report 12/29 10:35:39:

    battle84.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20091229/6c/4f/6c4f6c86d1e49e118dc9282a95f29d4e.xml

    I strongly believe that sid isn't playing his own account right now and someone in terralea is playing it to save his cities, the army counts have not changed in either city see these reports:

    battle84.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20091229/e6/36/e63689bf4a02f79584e13a9120e927a0.xml

    battle84.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20091229/61/b8/61b80afce6fafa909c4e31c613ca1fbe.xml

    If he was really playing his accounts he would have reinforce both cities from his other cities and you would think he wouldn't run out of food in a second city. I know someone else is logging in to save them please do something......
    Well firstly this in and of itself is not proof of cheating, as it is Possible he received a phone call from an alliance mate, he logged it to prevent the loyalty drop but did not have the time to stay and play. Now is this likely ,,, not very, but it is a possibility as many alliance members become friends outside of the game and thus share such contact information. Secondly there are instances where it is perfectly legit for someone else to log into another person account which have been laid out in other thread by the moderators and admins here. An example of this is a Solider on Active deployment having an alliance mate babysit his account for him. In these instances it is required however that the member inform evony of why he/she is having someone look after there account and let them know exactly who that person will be ahead of time.

    "People once believed, that when someone dies, a crow carries their soul to the land of the dead. But sometimes, something so bad happens, that a terrible sadness is carried with it and the soul can't rest. Then sometimes, just sometimes the crow could bring that soul back to put the wrong things right"

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    So you are saying its within the rules to log into other players accounts? This is what Hunter says about it, the wife story if I only had a nickel for every time I was told that:




    http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/8640/huntery.png

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conpmana View Post
    So you are saying its within the rules to log into other players accounts? This is what Hunter says about it, the wife story if I only had a nickel for every time I was told that:




    http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/8640/huntery.png
    It is under certain situations as spelled out by Evony, and only after informing Evony that you will be having someone log into your account and why ( and it must be one of those situations evony allows ) I forget which thread it is in, but there is at least one thread here on the forums that tells you what those Situations are, but if a Help mod or admin who may happen to be reading this would be kind enough to post them here it would be greatly appreciated.

    "People once believed, that when someone dies, a crow carries their soul to the land of the dead. But sometimes, something so bad happens, that a terrible sadness is carried with it and the soul can't rest. Then sometimes, just sometimes the crow could bring that soul back to put the wrong things right"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conpmana View Post
    So you are saying its within the rules to log into other players accounts? This is what Hunter says about it, the wife story if I only had a nickel for every time I was told that:




    http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/8640/huntery.png
    Well sorry King Hunter for this....
    But he had his facts wrong! And Evony admins can freely check this out for themselves in the admin panels of their website controls. I create websites and now for a fact you can indeed trace an i.p. and computer systems, and so on within your control panel logs.

    On the day you speak of Conp, I logged into my account, on MY laptop with my internet card. I read the war reports as soon as I log in. Scurvyton was under major attack, 5 pages worth! My husband was 5 feet away from me. OF COURSE I am going to tell him, "Hey go get on your account! You are being attacked!". Who wouldn't? 2 separate computers, and at that time, 2 separate internet accounts too!(we were out of town) But when at home, we have 2 computers hooked up to a router. Which also creates a unique i.p. address for each computer. Evony Admins can also check that out as well.

    Thats not cheating.

    We both are different ranks, different type of players and both have even purchased game cents and packages with our own separate cards. Oh

    And in response to the 2 post about alliance members becoming friends and being tight, we we are! We are a family like alliance, quite a few of us have other means of getting in touch with another members. We reinforce or send food to our members when they are getting attacked.

    Conp, I'm sorry that this really does boggle your mind and you can't seem to understand that sometimes a wife and husband do actually have the same interests and enjoy playing the same game together. It's fun playing with my husband. There are a couple of married couples and family members in our alliance. We have cousins, sisters, brothers and etc! We also play regularly and we help each other.

    Isn't that what an alliance is suppose to do? Help, guide and reinforce when needed?

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    Now I'm not sure, but if let's say one sets his tax to 0% does that help sustain loyalty and maybe he use speech text?
    Steady .. steady .. hold it .. BOMB GONE!

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    It is against our rules for someone to play someone else's account, for any reason, without prior notification of admin. Even then, we allow limited account-sitting, but not unlimited account-sharing.

    In other words, if you are expecting to be out of town and want your wife to play your account for you, that's fine if you let us know. Going on vacation and want your VH to watch over things? Again, fine if you let us know.

    What we do NOT allow is the practice of sharing account information with members of your alliance so that nobody is ever really offline. They jump onto each other's accounts to defend, attack, etc. If you trust each other that much, why not share cell numbers so you can text each other when needed? Or make contact via skype/msn/aim? There's nothing wrong with that...we just don't want everyone jumping on and off each other's accounts as that is unfair gameplay and goes against the spirit of the game.

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    I really don't think that account sharing should be allowed, if it is how do you ever take a big players city? They will just say they were away for the day and I had so and so watch my account, but if that is the rule you are saying you must notify who? Example:

    I go out of town for 2 days I have to send a message to who saying that player A is watching my account.


    If I don't send this message then what happens?

    Also make sure the "wife" has the same IP that usually logs into the account, I am sure you know that but I had to say it.


    Thanks for your fast reply's, I just need to know what is legal and whats not.


    @ Dahniana

    Yes I killed 1.5mill scouts on gurtz who was offline and I knew I would kill them, I know hunter reinforced him but the question is how? Hunter had no cities close but within minutes 100k archer showed up, pretty sure they came from rockaholics city but the question is did Rock have someone babysitting his account? Bottom line is they will check IP log ins and if you don't have several players logging into the accounts then I will stand corrected but I firmly believe that you shouldn't be able to log into other accounts period. And btw I killed all the archer in gurtz city if not for hunter gurtz loses his city, if hunter reinforced it with his own men and not rocks then props to him.
    Last edited by Conpmana; 12-29-2009 at 12:33 PM.

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    conp, honestly considering the fact that your ranked #7, quit the whining, man up and play the game.

    We work together, play together and help each other. No one has my game info, but they do have my cell #, its amazing what you can do with a laptop and an Iphone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sammithevixon View Post
    conp, honestly considering the fact that your ranked #7, quit the whining, man up and play the game.

    We work together, play together and help each other. No one has my game info, but they do have my cell #, its amazing what you can do with a laptop and an Iphone.
    Ok folks, this is the point in the conversation where it is best to bring your personal arguments to private message or back into game, or at the very least down to your servers forum.

    "People once believed, that when someone dies, a crow carries their soul to the land of the dead. But sometimes, something so bad happens, that a terrible sadness is carried with it and the soul can't rest. Then sometimes, just sometimes the crow could bring that soul back to put the wrong things right"

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