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    Quote Originally Posted by Takis View Post
    As for the food consumption do you think it would be fair for every other server that was not being merged to also recieve a culmative 8 days? They recieved 5, same as you.
    I don't think you understand. A part of the merge grants you 3 days of no food consumption. That is a "comes with the merge" deal. Anyone and everyone who gets merged, past, present, and (unless changed) future, gets 3 days with the merge.

    Servers N1, WN1, WN2, WN3, WN4, N2, merged before us got 3 days from the merge, then the Milk and Cookies, for a total of up to 8 days.

    Server N3, merged just a few days before us, got 3 days from the merge, then the Milk and Cookies, for a total of up to 8 days.

    Server SS1, merged just a few days ago, got 3 days from the merge, and the Milk and Cookies, for a total of up to 8 days.

    Future merges will also have the potential for up to 8 days.

    It worked like the following:

    THREE (3) days of "comes with" server merge no food consumption.
    UP TO FIVE (5) days of Milk and Cookies during 12/23/2009 - 12/27/2009, provided that the person was enrolled on ANY server and was gifted the Milk and Cookies items.

    TOTAL = UP TO 8 (3 "guaranteed")

    Servers 15 and 16 got the following:

    ONE (1) day of Milk and Cookies on 12/23/2009.
    THREE (3) days of EITHER Milk and Cookies OR the default "comes with" server merge deal on 12/24/2009, 12/25/2009, and 12/26/2009.
    ONE (1) day of Milk and Cookies on 12/27/2009.

    TOTAL = UP TO 5 (3 "guaranteed")

    Servers 15 and 16, now N4, are the ONLY CUSTOMERS who have that "EITHER / OR" condition. Other customers on servers that were merged only days before and days after us did not have an either/or condition to deal with. They got 3 days from the merge, and up to 5 days from the milk and cookies promotion, for a total of up to 8 days.

    I do not understand why this is such a puzzler for folks. It's right there plain as day. I'm not asking for any more than someone else, I'm asking to not get LESS THAN others. 5 is less than 8. I believe I learned that fact sometime when my age was in the single-digits as well.

    Apparently, as I keep noticing, a large percentage of people have to be in the situation to be understanding. So, I'll repeat what I asked of Nathan (Dawnseeker):

    If you and your friend were told that for every 8 hours you worked, you would receive 1 hour of paid time off, and both of you worked 64 hours, would you consider you getting 5 hours of paid time off, while your friend got 8 hours of paid time off to be "a fair deal"? My guess is you wouldn't....that it would somehow be "different".

    Something that is wrong is wrong because it is wrong. It doesn't become "right" or "ok" when it is happening to someone other than yourself.
    Last edited by neko_lord; 01-14-2010 at 02:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neko_lord View Post
    I don't think you understand. A part of the merge grants you 3 days of no food consumption. That is a "comes with the merge" deal. Anyone and everyone who gets merged, past, present, and (unless changed) future, gets 3 days with the merge.

    Servers N1, WN1, WN2, WN3, WN4, N2, merged before us got 3 days from the merge, then the Milk and Cookies, for a total of up to 8 days.

    Server N3, merged just a few days before us, got 3 days from the merge, then the Milk and Cookies, for a total of up to 8 days.

    Server SS1, merged just a few days ago, got 3 days from the merge, and the Milk and Cookies, for a total of up to 8 days.

    Future merges will also have the potential for up to 8 days.

    It worked like the following:

    THREE (3) days of "comes with" server merge no food consumption.
    UP TO FIVE (5) days of Milk and Cookies during 12/23/2009 - 12/27/2009, provided that the person was enrolled on ANY server and was gifted the Milk and Cookies items.

    TOTAL = UP TO 8 (3 "guaranteed")

    Servers 15 and 16 got the following:

    ONE (1) day of Milk and Cookies on 12/23/2009.
    THREE (3) days of EITHER Milk and Cookies OR the default "comes with" server merge deal on 12/24/2009, 12/25/2009, and 12/26/2009.
    ONE (1) day of Milk and Cookies on 12/27/2009.

    TOTAL = UP TO 5 (3 "guaranteed")

    Servers 15 and 16, now N4, are the ONLY CUSTOMERS who have that "EITHER / OR" condition.

    I do not understand why this is such a puzzler for folks. It's right there plain as day. I'm not asking for any more than someone else, I'm asking to not get LESS THAN others. 5 is less than 8. I believe I learned that fact sometime when my age was in the single-digits as well.

    Apparently, as I keep noticing, a large percentage of people have to be in the situation to be understanding.
    Repeating the same thing over and over whilst ignoring the extenuating just makes you seem like some pompous goon. I am well aware that 8 is more than 5 thanks for the reminder though. Evony age2 is likely to come along long before many many servers are merged. So 8 servers have been merged, ill be honest and sayI dont know the specifics but I assume these are all about 4 servers being merged, thats 32 servers so far out of 128, say there are another 4 merges and I doubt there will be more than that before age2 which looks imminent due to the ceasing of opening new servers that would be about 48-50 overall. Less than 50% of servers that have not and probably will not recieve these 3 days. Looks like you are in the majority rather than the minority as you would like people to believe.
    Disclaimer: The views in my posts do not necessarily reflect my views.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Takis View Post
    I am well aware that 8 is more than 5 thanks for the reminder though.
    So it is ok for people that were merged only a few days before, as well as a few days after, to get MORE opportunity than us?

    Less than 50% of servers that have not and probably will not recieve these 3 days. Looks like you are in the majority rather than the minority as you would like people to believe.
    Again, if you were standing in line with someone passing out free widgets, 8 per person limit, and those in front of you, as well as those behind you, were given their 8, but you were given 5, and you were told the reason why they were given more than you was "because you got some, didn't you", how well would that go over with you?

    My bet is it wouldn't go over well at all...

    Another example: Let's say you have a daughter, and at the mall they are giving out "Free Milk and Cookies", 1 glass of milk and 4 cookies per child. Your daughter gets in line, waits for 15 minutes (an eternity for young ones), while you witness children before her getting exactly what was stated. When it is your daughter's turn, she gets handed 1 cookie and a glass of water. The children behind her then start receiving the 4 cookies and a glass of milk.

    I would suppose that you would think that was fair and just? No? Oh, and if you feel like it was wrong and you protested it, you'd be perfectly ok with me chastising you for taking up for your daughter by telling you this excuse or that excuse as to why you're in the wrong for being upset, right?
    Last edited by neko_lord; 01-14-2010 at 03:04 PM.

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    Why does the number of days matter of free stuff? We don't battle from server to server so no one had an unfair advantage over you. I understand your math and yes, you were 'cheated' out of 3 days non-consumption of food... but so was everyone on your server. No one got an unfair advantage. Now if we battled server to server, that would be unfair.

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    The timing of the merge was terrible and players were ? cheated out of using food buffs. I wholeheartedly sympathize with the situation. I'd be more than a little smurfed off if I had been playing on one of those servers.

    My question is, and please don't take this as being rude, what is it you want?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pobbygirl View Post
    My question is, and please don't take this as being rude, what is it you want?
    It's very simple what I want. The Milk and Cookies items are still in the "My Items" area. All I want Evony to do is allow anyone on server N4 to have the benefit of up to 3 of what they have remaining. I want Evony to honor the deal. I want those of us on server N4 to have the same opportunities that server N2, N3, and SS1 (all relatively recent server merges) received.

    They can do this one of two ways:

    1) Enable the items for server N4 only and put a cap at 3 days, with a mail going out to players to inform them of this.
    2) Run a SQL query against the player database for server N4, determine how many each player account has, and auto-enable the items for people.

    You cannot purchase any more of those items, so only people who were eligible for the use of the items during the stated timeframe of the promotion would get any benefit. This would not benefit everyone on the server, only those who were eligible based on the promotion, which is absolutely 100% fair. This is not a request for compensation due to the merge happening at Christmas, but only a request for honoring the promotional deal and treating players equally, as merges before and after us received more than we did.

    The way it would work is if you had 1 such item left, you'd get 1 day of no food consumption. If you had 2, you'd get 2 days. 3 would get you 3 days. 4 items would get you 3 days. Maximum amount is 3 days. I have 10 of the items. I'm not trying to "get over" on someone. If I were, I'd demand to be able to use all 10. I'm not. All I want is the promotion by the company to be appropriately honored, and equity between players who have been through server merges to be restored.

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    It seems like this is becoming an argument with no end. It has happened, Evony has hosed people quite a bit. In other server mergers people have lost their entire account info- you made your point. Are you going to make another mathematical formula to show that some people will be gettint 11 days of free upkeep when their servers merge?


    And if someone gave me a Widget, even if it is less then the person in front of me i would be glad because then I can finally see what a widget is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramis View Post
    It seems like this is becoming an argument with no end. It has happened, Evony has hosed people quite a bit. In other server mergers people have lost their entire account info-
    That is a separate situation. If an account was lost, the person deserves to be compensated if the account is indeed "lost". Most likely what would happen is there would be an older backup of the person's account and they'd get restored based on that backup, then given some sort of compensation package. That's how I'd handle it if I were the Customer Service Manager in charge of the situation and the account really had been lost in the recent backups. If there was no backup, then I'd find out how much the person had spent in cash, if any, and issue a full refund.

    That's part of what's irritating me when people start telling me that I have nothing to complain about. I've been in customer service positions before, and even as a programmer or system administrator, I still had to provide customer service when there was a problem. I've had to listen to unreasonable demands and work through getting to equitable solutions. I've had to "give in" a bit here and there, either in time or in resources. I remember one time that I was fussed at by my manager for getting someone their kid's Christmas item delivered on the 24th by FedEx for the same price as UPS Ground shipping (which would've been late), as well as with a 10% discount on the item because the company I worked for messed up.

    I'm not asking for anything unreasonable, and it is tiring to have people beat on me for continuing to ask for what I would've already done for them...
    Last edited by neko_lord; 01-14-2010 at 03:38 PM.

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    Okay, I've let this go on because I understand the frustration and want people to express themselves. However, I'm not going to sit here while a few people try to whip everyone else into a frenzy. This has run its course.
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