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    I use P2P so PC is usually 24/7. I left FF open / Evony running all day to find both game had all but stopped and download / upload slowed dramatically. Closed the game and Firefox and my P2P speed went right back up.
    Re-opened game and all was sweet again. If it happens again I will have a look in Task Manager...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bad_Wolf View Post
    I'm not ranting; I'm pointing out a legit issue. One, that if you were to read some of the other forums, you would know that many people are having the same problems.
    Apparently me telling fellow players, moderators, and employees that the game has a leak is not enough to let you in on the idea that maybe I already understand that there are problems...

    Moderators are NOT employees, to the best of my knowledge. They are only charged with moderating the forums. They are not obligated to inform whoever you think they are supposed to inform that you have an issue, found the cause of an issue, or anything else. They might CHOOSE to do so, which is their right as individuals, but they are not at your beck and call.

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    i don't see anywhere that It states "these are the OFFICIAL FORUMS/FIX" FOR ALL YOUR PROBLEMS ON Evony. I believe it has been left up to the many customers,paying or not to help limp your system along so you can enjoy paying or not to enjoy this game.

    Sound kinda harsh? I think as a customer i would expect a little more for my $.

    Some places in this world that evony serves have a gross annual income = to $30 USD AND LESS.IMAGINE THAT.

    I will trade You 2 cows and 3 wives for a medal box so I can ....(did I say shhh.... I'm watching the screen load now)
    Last edited by Eutopeus; 01-30-2010 at 09:55 PM.

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    ---Oh goody. I made it back before the 7-day expiration date which inflicts an infraction that w/dignity is named after an act of having :: censored :: with dead people.

    ---If you're 6'3" tall and someone says they too are 6'3" tall, yet they don't even stem to your eye level, you can see they're FOS right.

    ---It's no big deal, the same has happened to many people who were coding Java... or even HTML, for crappy IE and found their apps.. no, their script didn't work on other browsers like Netscape. Same with plenty of low-rate booters on the lovely messenger programs that unwise people use. Program a booter that does nothing more than kick your own sorry rump off the net. Now, that's a script kiddie... hasn't learned how to spot his/her errors yet.

    ---Again I say the browser can run all day and it doesn't have a problem one. It's not my PC buddy ol' pals cause :: omitted :: who were around 5 years ago when it was built still want it because of it's limitations. It's not an Aldi, nor is it a Best Buys, nor was even a single component purchased from Circuit City Liquidators or even Circuit City, collected from Grand-maw-maw or my my "folks". Every component is direct from the manufacturer... not even the old Gateway 2000 tower from my old Windows 2000 system is a hand-me-down. It pulls 160cfm cooling 2 x OSA875FAA6CC, BFG 7600GT OC, 4 x Crucial CT12872Y40B, blah blah blah that runs 28?C-30?C/CPU0 and 32?C-36?C/CPU1 w/system temp of 26?C-32?C. Max temps ever recorded were 56?C/60?C system temp of 40?C and still no issues with lag. Say it's running too hot/cool and you know nothing about Opterons. Then again... lol, fuuuughettaboutit. It's not my PC, as was said.

    ---New notice when signing up maybe? Game is best viewed on blank browser..." if that's the case, rather than trying to blame it on people's systems and spouting off things you have no idea about. What's next? Telling people on XP to open Microsoft Configuration Utility to prevent applications from starting with Windows and then being slapped down by the big "Sorry, that's for nothing more than reference on XP+ and all you do is make matters worse by playing in areas where you're ignorant". Maybe I need to shut down my Antivirus and firewall next?

    ---Gotta go, need to check and see if my question about how to disable automatic login been answered yet (doubt it)? That's a security flaw and much more important than lag. Lag can be solved by doing as suggested, stopping the defective script via the refresh button or F5... wait, that's Alt+F4. Seriously, F5, I press it every 10 minutes or so to see that another "suggestions" post is being played in, wile serious technical questions go unanswered.
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    I am very unhappy that this has suddenly gone off topic and just read 3 pages of nothing.

    So I would like to know if their is any chance of being able to contact the developers to put this information forward due to past experiances I have noticed that the contact us and the Bug report forms do not get answered.

    As of my first post in this topic I have started to construct my own evony type game without said memory leak (I might use java), much more balanced and less tedious on the farming issuse (actually you wont need to said 'farm').

    Give me two weeks to have beta compiled so you may have a major competitor... Or please communicate with these issues.

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    There are known memory leaks in Firefox, that's pretty well understood by now. Flash's issue is mainly excessive CPU usage, which, in the right circumstance, can degrade performance as well, and even cause crashes in its own right, depending on what else is running.

    Flash as a media platform can indeed be prone to memory leakage. It doesn't help that the majority OS, Windows, has very poor memory management capability to begin with.

    Wrap all this together, and yes, things can begin to suck very quickly.

    Lag, generally speaking, is another matter.. It can be caused by poor connectivity, too much crap running at any given time, malware/adware/spyware (see "too much crap running"), server overload...

    Or, simply enough, some kind of "bottleneck" occurring anywhere between your computer and the server in question.. Anywhere in the dozens of "hops" in the routing chain between you, the server, and back can introduce lag into the mix.. and hundreds of things can cause it.

    I get lag every now and then, but I know where it comes from. My ISP sucks, even though I ostensibly have 8mb down /1mb up broadband, and it shows usually reasonably close to that on the various speedtests.. Latency and Bandwidth are different things entirely.

    Fixing lag.. good luck on that. Yeah, some of it is probably due to Evony's server mergers and their network not being optimized for the particulars involved.. but it's hard to tell, in all honesty.

    Far as the memory leaks go.. There's a fix. You may or may not want to use it.. but I'll share it here. Google a program called "Cleanmem". Find a reputable source, download and install, if you're running Windows. Yeah, it's a windows only thing.. Sorry Linux guys, but Linux doesn't have an equivalent API set to allow for the memory cleaning, so far as I've found.

    When you install it, it makes an entry into Windows Task Scheduler.. by default it sets itself up to be run every 30 minutes.. (you can change this to whatever you like.).. and when it runs, it goes through and frees up the memory that is being claimed by the programs you run, but not actually being *used* by them.

    You don't lose data, it's completely safe.. I've used it, I've recommended it to my alliance mates and my roommate, and they've all used it without issue..

    Essentially, it just goes through and frees up the "leaked" memory again. Saves you from having to reload and whatnot. If you're on a system with low amounts of memory, set it for every 10 min instead of every 30..

    It doesn't actually repair what's broken in FF or some particular flash coding.. but it does provide a very simple workaround.
    <19:42>[DPS]: can i have the coords of that 'real life' please.. i'dd like to scout it

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    ---Most have not only further the points others have made, but have brought their own to class, and some have used terms that show they at least have an idea what they're talking about. Welcome to the 6'3" club. Sure beats bein' 3' tall, quoting hear-say and ultimately helps people more that saying "Yeah yeah, what he said" ~imitation of the twerp from Welcome Back Kotter~.
    Quote Originally Posted by Druegan View Post
    ...Far as the memory leaks go.. There's a fix. You may or may not want to use it.. but I'll share it here. Google a program called "Cleanmem"...
    ---And a high-end system will have it's own scrubber built right into BIOS. Prior to sourcing a Motherboard that had exactly what I deemed perfect, I used RamBooster, which is probably the best there is still because the main problem with DLing programs that start with Explorer is that those programs use resources also. RamBooster never had a problem with running on low-end systems fitted with Pentium Pro/PII or 1st gen AMD Athalon/Duron CPUs. Not even when you tried to squeeze Windows XP on that system, having a max of 512MB and the person only had one 256M stick + 64M or 128M.

    ---However, the above is not necessary with most later versions of Windows XP+ because they utilize the "cleanup nanny" known as System Idle Process. If the dns cache dump/scrub & System Idle Process is working correctly... or no one went into MSCONFIG and started playing with things they shouldn't have (again, not how you stop processes in XP+), the problem would be related to either the game or the browser since, if eventvwr doesn't show memory handling errors, and no one is talking shut-downs (if so, need to get to safe mode screen and select "disable restart on errors" so you get a BSOD on next halt), then it's not in RAM. Besides, fixing the problem is a better solution than installing useless software to make up for incompetence/ignorance/error no matter how minor that may be.

    ---As for the bottlenecking possibility, again, not the case with me, but for those who are curious and think the problem could be there, they might consider typing into command line, ipconfig /flushdns and see if it moves things along faster (your browser won't touch that cache, has to do with network, so cleaning with the browser is pointless there). If so, then I would say some* of their problem is not in their networking, but in their OS's control over networking. That can be done without worrying about losing the network, connection to LAN, browser, etc. takes about 1 second and nothing will even notice.

    ---I will not say it is all in the networking, `cause I firmly believe the script has serious flaws. People who use IE complain that their browser just shuts down and when I wanted to confirm, same thing happened to me. That was a while back and it was memory, though I don't recall the address of the BSOD I forced or the eventvwr report, but it was not related to DNS. XP/Vista, with exception to Vista not having the network half-open port cap... forget what version cause a smart man knows what year to stop buying anything GM sells (including Toyota), but a simple search for vista half open port patch will show you what versions don't need the patch. That same version that does not need the patch, is where they finally figured out they screwed up and forgot to set DNS Client cache dumping with every so often and there was a fault in the script/registry preventing it from being performed during boot (FWIW, you can upgrade/upgrade/downgrade to any release of the OS as long as the OS doesn't change from say Home to Pro, Home to Media, Media to Pro, etc., etc., or vice versa) as long as you use your key.

    ---If more info on the networking/tweaking topic is desired, start a new thread in Off-Topic and send a PM to those who you wish to add input to the topic. They can accept the invite or not.

    ---Other things like fixing the errors, which I also wouldn't find enjoyable(?); I ask up to $120 an hour to rewire vehicles. If I see one Scotch Lock, 1 thread from Duct Tape backing or even the unprofessional wrapping of electrical tape, the price shoots up to $220 an hour. Repairing other-people's-screw-ups is costly and sometimes leads to a reading disorder known as explosive regurgitation.

    ---The possibility of errors in game script that cause confusion/lag would be associated, where suggestions for settings/tweaks/patches would not. The topic hasn't changed at all. Most of us have remained on topic and I guess others either haven't replied or simply got lost in the basic technical mumbo jumbo. As for now, I can't really see myself adding anything more without going off-topic. FWIW, I have no problem helping others try and get their systems running better than OEM, but like many others, to play, not to help design the game.


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